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2021-04-15 11:44:35 - Sušac X 2
Strategically interesting race. It's is always interested where to pass on Pakleni islands. Very light winds, especially in the start and finish in front City of Split.

100NM, Split-Sušac-Split - Croatia
Seascape 18

It's also a famous real race that starts 04-06 June



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2021-04-16 09:39:55 - Re: Sušac X 2
Hi srce,

Good work, for what is your first race proposal (I believe). That's how it's done.

A few remarks.

It could boost your chances of the proposal getting on the calendar (race committee decides that), if you post a link to website of the real event (in Croatian is ok); or even better, if that organisation would agree to partner up with SOL for this race.

Because we have SOLers in all timezones the start will be middle of night for some of us. If I read your kmz correctly there are 4 buoys to round right after start. That will be difficult to do on DC and not lose out time on those who can do it manually in daytime.

Seascape18 is a locally made boat and was used in the Bora race. With 100NM this is like a long sprint race or a short multi-day race. If winds are often very slow at Split then a faster boat would probably be better. That's a small problem to solve, of course :)

I see what you mean with the Pakleni islands being an important strategic point in this race. Maybe a waypoint on the first island could be used to force the boats to chose a path through those islands. But then it probably differs from the official race..

Dan/Zorba777

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2021-04-16 13:51:53 - Re: Sušac X 2
Hi Zorba,

Congrats on your last race. Brave strategy.

Thank you for your positive response.

I sent a message to the sailing club JK Mornar. I would like to link SOL with the sailing club. I think it's better like that. But don't know how the partnership works.

Yes, the first 4 marks are difficult for SOLers. Maybe we can make it with just one to have 100NM overall.

All real boats have trakers. Is it possible to link that boats inside a virtual race?

We can change the boat. I think Open40 is pretty fast and real for this race.

Pakleni islands. That is the best strategic part. We can leave the decision to SOLers. So I think no marks just Pakleni in detailed resolution if it's possible. If you zoom in there are plenty of passages.

http://www.jk-mornar.hr/regatas/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bvWHE6RayU&t=1s









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2021-04-16 17:30:56 - Re: Sušac X 2
Hi srce,

@RainbowChaser is our SOL expert for cooperation with IRL races and clubs. I will send her a note to look at your proposal.

When the boats have position trackers then they can be made to appear on our screen during the SOL race.

Dan
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2021-04-18 07:24:25 - Re: Sušac X 2
Good news. Race manager is interested and things that is good idea to connect real and virtual race.
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2021-04-23 08:44:29 - Re: Sušac X 2
Hello everyone. Regarding Zorba remarks and together with JK Mornar I made some changes. There are just 2 marks in front of port Split (pass on the starboard side) and then we point Island Sušac, we pass on the STB side close to the very nice lighthouse on Sušac. In the summertime, you can even rent a room there. Polar is Melges24. Because there will be more than five real Melges 24 in the race. The race starts on 04th of June at 10:00UTC

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https://www.magniblu.com/en/
https://www.magniblu.com/portfolio/susac-100x2-2020/
http://regate.magniblu.com/playback/?rid=12
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2021-05-28 11:46:59 - Re: Sušac X 2
Hello everyone, Regarding race Sušac X2. Can you help me please with some answers? I'll try to do my best to propose Sušac. Why we have Susan Trophy instead? What did I make wrong?
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2021-05-28 13:41:56 - Re: Sušac X 2
Dear srce, I will be emailing you shortly. Many apologies for lack of immediate contact.
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2021-05-30 06:39:07 - Re: Sušac X 2
Hi srce.
Just saw your post and that RainbowChaser has picked up on it.

You did not do anything wrong, far from it!
But neither @RC nor me decide on the race calendar. And that calendar is typically made a month before each new quarter starts. So the calendar for Q2 was already made in March.

So, to get this race in for June we would have needed to plan it in January-February already, especially for buddied races where the people of the real race are to be involved.

But I think your proposal is good and hopefully something can be done with it for the next year edition.

Proposing races is a hit or miss affair. I have proposed many and a few have made it to the calendar. Others may still get used in a next year, who knows?

So, we are very happy to see race proposals, but nothing can be guaranteed.
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2021-05-30 06:51:14 - Re: Sušac X 2
@srce The procedure by which the SOL racing committee selects races for the calendar is a bit shrouded in mist. So, even members of the daily OPS team cannot force their proposals to be taken.

Besides the proposal being well made and interesting enough, there are probably some things that help:
1 - Buddied races that can be done alongside real races are generally considered first. (Non-real races can always be done in winter.)
2 - If your proposal gets more response on the forum, then it probably gets more chance too.
3 - And of course we all want variation on the calendar, so if your proposed race is in a part of the world where we rarely (or never) did a race then it probably has a better chance too.

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