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2012-02-15 16:45:38 - Whitbread 89/90 proposal (moved from main thread)
What about the Classic Whitbread race - 85/86 edition that has epic legs or the 89/90 race. I am waiting for a reply from Farr to see if they will forward me the polar for Steinlager II in full Whitbread trim. Jeroen suggested that we can run this on alternate years when we are not doing the SWR
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2012-02-15 16:46:03 - Re: Whitbread 89/90 proposal (moved from main thread)
No worries Vince.
Our polars for the boat are buried deep in storage, but I have contacted the Navigator onboard for that race and he is going to send them to me when he gets back to NZL around the 21st of this month. I hope this will work for you. Also, please remind me around that time to follow up if you have not heard back from me.
Cheers,
Ian

From: Vince Nel [mailto:vince@darcstudio3d.co.za]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:55 AM
To: Ian Gordon
Subject: RE: Steinlager II Polars

Good day Ian.

If you can locate that polar I’ll owe you a ton of gratitude that I cannot repay in this lifetime. Having this polar will be the closest thing guys like myself will get to actually seeing (let alone sailing) her in real life. To quantify this: It’s like receiving an autographed expedition notes of the Everest expedition by Sir Edmund Hillary… handed over in person.
There are few out there who follow sailing or know something about sailing that has not heard of Steinlager II… Arguably the most famous boat of the last 30 years… America also comes to mind…

Thanks a ton for the effort, it will be richly appreciated by myself and SOL members alike.

Regards.

Vince

From: Ian Gordon
Sent: 14 February 2012 06:35 PM
To: vince@darcstudio3d.co.za
Subject: Steinlager II Polars

Vince,

We are looking around for this info. It is not easily coming up but we will work on it. Please give me a little bit of time.

Best regards,
Ian

Ian Gordon
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Farr Yacht Sales, LLC







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2012-02-16 10:18:29 - Re: Whitbread 89/90 proposal (moved from main thread)
Maybe this could be of help... I have the real polars of Belmont Finland II (ex. UBS Switzerland) from the 89-90 race, recorded into a Macintosh SE30 while sailing the race. I collected the polars through MacSea, and used them to "tune" the VPP I was writing at the time. As I recall, Steinlager was roughly 1-1,5 hours in 24 hours faster than Belmont, which made the race on Belmont rather a frustrating experience. On the other hand, as the race was no issue, I had plenty of time to collect the polars and work on my VPP ;-).

Here's a plot of the polars, I don't seem to find the numbers now, but I probably could get you the same in numbers by running the VPP again

Mikko Brummer. (Crew member onBelmont Finland II) Whitbread 89 - 90

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2012-02-23 06:26:29 - Re: Whitbread 89/90 proposal (moved from main thread)
Ok, I have laid my hands on that long awaited polar of Steinlager II in Whitbread trim. Thanks to Ian Gordon of Farr for this little gem! Now to get their actual course from somewhere...
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2012-02-23 14:57:09 - Re: Whitbread 89/90 proposal (moved from main thread)
Great work WW.
I have massaged the data to txt-format
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Gorgeous polar WW, and nice work!
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2012-02-25 23:13:39 - Re: Whitbread 89/90 proposal (moved from main thread)
Well Done, WW

Here is the polar view in PE.
Not sure how to clean up the boat speed indicators.

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