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Name kroppyer
Email Address info@kroppyer.nl
Website URLhttp://sol.kroppyer.nl
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  • Re: How to make Notes tab visible
    Board » Technical Support
    The notes are stored locally, in you computer within your browser even. You will need to use the exact same browser and computer and client in order to access the notes.

    So, if you are on iPad, there is no way to get the to the notes you made on your computer. I don't think the HTML5 client has this functionality to take notes, since its use is rather limited as you just discovered.
  • Re: Public testing new HTML5 client
    Board » General Discussion
    A new version was published just now. In general, updates may come unannounced as long as we are in the development stage. Below is some information on what to do if an update does not work for you.

    There are three versions of the client: normal, dev and old. The last two are available if you append "?version=dev" and "?version=old" to the url. Normal is available as usual, without appending anything to the url.
    The dev version is regularly updated and used for testing. It will likely contain new features, but also new bugs.
    The normal version is only updated occasionally and should be mostly free of bugs.
    The old version is available for when an update to the normal version turns out to contain a crucial bug. Then at least you can use the old version.

    Should you (after an update) find a bug that makes the normal version unusable for you, append "?version=old" to use the previous version of the client. Do let us know about the problem so we can look for a solution.

    --- Last Edited by kroppyer at 2020-06-12 22:34:45 ---
  • Re: Public testing new HTML5 client
    Board » General Discussion
    Thank you freudenoli for your feedback and welcome to sailonline! Feedback from newcomers is much appreciated. The new client is much like the old client in design and functionality. It seems a proven design and it's what the regular solers are used to. But of course we need to make sure that people just joining in are able to find their way in the new client as well. You will spot things we regular solers may not even notice.

    1) The orange dot on the predictor line indicates the point where the command will execute based on your preliminary settings. You have yet to actually send that command by pressing the button "send command". The orange dot is indeed not useful for determining when/where the next registered command will execute. You can however see in the top right of the map how long to go until the next command, and then set that number on the "delay" box to move the orange dot to the time (and location) when the next command would execute.

    2) At this moment, the only reason why the predictor line does not take into account the scheduled commands is because the old client also did not do this. It is the way it has always been and at this point we do not want to create a big competitive difference between the two clients. Once the new client will be the official client and the old Flash client just a backup, we will have the discussion with our members about changes as significant as this. It will change the game (at least a bit), so I believe it's fair to discuss it with you all before we make a decision.

    An indicator on the predictor line where the next scheduled command would take place, as you suggested in your first comment, is probably a small enough change that it should not lead to any controversy or competitive difference between the old and new client. We'll keep it in mind!

    --- Last Edited by kroppyer at 2020-06-12 22:34:49 ---
  • Re: Public testing new HTML5 client
    Board » General Discussion
    A new version of the client will be published shortly. You can already try it out by appending ?version=dev to the URL of a race.

    In case this new version does not work for you, let us know. You can use the old version by appending ?version=old to the URL of a race, even after the new version has been published.

    To summarize:
    Right now:
    old: sailonline.org/breezy/run/xxxx/?version=old
    old: sailonline.org/breezy/run/xxxx/
    new: sailonline.org/breezy/run/xxxx/?version=dev

    After update:
    old: sailonline.org/breezy/run/xxxx/?version=old
    new: sailonline.org/breezy/run/xxxx/
    new: sailonline.org/breezy/run/xxxx/?version=dev

    EDIT: I have now updated the client.

    --- Last Edited by kroppyer at 2020-04-11 11:26:38 ---
  • Re: Public testing new HTML5 client
    Board » General Discussion
    What you describe is caused by the different update times of the fleet, and your own boat. The fleet (all boats) are updated once a minute, so they make jumps of 1 minute. Your own pink boat is updated more frequently, and will jump ahead before the fleet catches up.

    Your boat is also part of the fleet, so an version of your boat is updated together with the rest of the fleet once every minute. It looks like it is sailing behind your pink boat. In the Flash client this boat is made invisible, buy you can make it visible by clicking your own name in the leaderboard-tab.

    Personally I always liked to see my shadow, so I could better compare how I was doing relative to the fleet. But it may be confusing to have it always visible, especially to new SOLers.

    I think you problem would be solved with the following feature:
    Make drawing of own boat in fleet invisible unless own boat is selected in the ranking-tab.
    Even better may be to have three options in the settings: {always show, never show, only when selected}, with as default one of the last two.
  • Re: Public testing new HTML5 client
    Board » General Discussion
    A new version of the client has been published. You can simply refresh/reload browser tab.

    If this new version doesn't work for you, let us know. You can use the older version by appending
    ?version=old
    to the url, or (for the current two races) by clicking the links below.
    Dondra to Sanya 2020
    BA-Rio 2020

    What has been changed? Here is a list of the most important changes (credit to ij):
    - Tack/Gybe button label split to either “Tack” or “Gybe”
    - POIs show local wind info
    - When WX panel is focused, left and right arrow keys step time backwards and forwards
    - Minor tweaking to mouse handling code to prepare for touch interface improvements for ruler and steer tools (should not change anything but may still break something)
    - Highlight race leader setting
    - Attempt to prevent browser’s autocompletion for text input fields
    - Chat input text area style changes (one additional line and scrollbar enabled when necessary)
    - Boat scale setting
    - Boat list save/restore
    - UI changes to enable Touch UI
    - WX panel styling improvements (roughly constant width)
    - Control panel layout tweaks, ranking tab in particular (to solve iPad UI issues)
    - Chat odd/even bg color tweak to hopefully avoid some “bg jumps” when new messages appear
    - Fix stale boat filter when a boat list that was in “show only” state is deleted
    - TWS contours. There are still some horizontal gap artifacts in contours and when wx area appears more than once, only one of them draws contours currently; in practice, neither limits significantly the usefulness of contours. Contour density is configurable through Settings.
    - Quick-access buttons for show TWS/TWD (beside the wind arrow/barb)
    - Ranking tab click vs mouseup problem (reported to occur with Edge)

    PS: for early access to updates like this, you can append
    ?version=dev
    to the URL. This "dev"-version gets updated more frequently (and without notice). Drawback is that there may be more bugs. At this moment the "dev"-version is not ahead any updates.
  • Re: Public testing new HTML5 client
    Board » General Discussion
    I don't think double (or triple) clicking has been implemented to go to max zoom immediately. But something very useful you may not be aware of is that you can shift-click and drag. This selects a region on the map, and when you release the mouse button, it zooms to that region of the map. Does that work for you, or would you still really like a way to go to max zoom immediately?

    In general, there multiple differences with the Flash client. Some things work slightly different, other things are simply not copied from the old client. If you find some feature in the Flash client useful, let us know what you use it for (like Rod did). This really helps. Maybe there is an alternative to achieve the same (or better), and if not. Who knows ij wants to implement it (for this it really helps to know how people are using features, and why they want them).

    --- Last Edited by kroppyer at 2020-01-27 20:43:58 ---
  • Re: Public testing new HTML5 client
    Board » General Discussion
    I have just noticed: if you have not yet registered in the race, to button to go to the new HTML client does not work properly, it will send you to the registration page, which will have forgotten that you wanted to see the new client and send you to the old Flash client. After registration, you can close the page/go back, and click the "New HTML5 client" button again.

    I will try and think of a fix for this.
  • Public testing new HTML5 client
    Board » General Discussion
    Blog post "New HTML5 client"

    Today a button appeared above the usual "GO TO RACE" button. This new button reads "New HTML5 client" and clicking it brings you to the new HTML5 client. You may have heard the rumours that this new client was under development and will eventually replace the Flash client we are used to. As Flash is being phased out it is becoming increasingly difficult to use sailonline in new browsers, so it is vital to have an alternative. Let me take this opportunity to thank our SOLer ij, who has been responsible for the existence of this new client, brightening the future of sailonline.

    We are now making this new HTML5 client available for everyone to use. Be aware that the client is still in a testing phase and that there may still be some bugs and problems with it. The user interface and general functionality are mostly the same as in the Flash client, but you may notice some differences, for example:
    - There are no contour lines indicating wind strength. The client is not completely finished yet and this is one aspect where work is still being done.
    - The TWA input field for steering requires a + or - sign. This should prevent some of the accidental tacks we have probably all experienced when we forgot the - sign.
    - You can monitor multiple chatrooms at the same time. You can now use the chatrooms English and the one for your native language at the same time!
    A longer list of changes can be found here. Use that chat and forum to talk with each other about using the new client and its new features. Some SOLers already have some experience with it and may be able to give you some tips and tricks.

    --- Last Edited by kroppyer at 2020-01-11 18:35:57 ---

    --- Last Edited by kroppyer at 2020-02-19 12:26:10 ---
  • WANTED: Testers new client
    Board » General Discussion
    Hello all,

    First let me bring you the good news that a SOLer has stepped up a while ago and started work on a new HTML5 client. We hope this client will ultimately replace the current Flash client, as Flash support gets removed from browsers over the next years.

    This new HTML5 client is now ready for some testing. We would like to select a handful of people that want to (1) test the new client and (2) be a guide to the new client once everyone else starts using it.

    As someone in this group
    (1) you will communicate with each other about their findings and maintain a list of bugs and feedback together, and
    (2) Once we believe the most important issues are all resolved, we will open the new client to the public and we would like you to answer questions in chat/forum when you are online and generally help people get started. If new problems are discovered, you can add them to the list.

    For (1) it would be nice if some of the people in the group have some affection/knowledge of web technologies or software testing.

    For (2) it would be nice if you are an active SOLer that is available in chat relatively frequently. It would be good to have some people from the non-English communities, like for example French, Italian and Spanish. But communication within the group and with us will be in English. Also SOLers from the Americas and Australasia are most welcome to join in order to have our "guides" spread over all time zones.

    If you are interested to be part of this group of "early adopters", please send an e-mail to my @sailonline.org address: huib@
    And if you know of people that may be interested, but sure to point them to this post.

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San Francisco Bay 2020
Many a Sailonline race has started or finished at San Francisco's Golden Gate, but never have we raced inside The Bridge on The Bay. This 27nm sprint corrects that oversight with a fine sight-seeing tour past Alcatraz, Yerba Buena, Brooks and East Marin Island. Our rarely raced Fox 9.50 is your boat of choice. She's a nippy little thing. Enjoy!
Race #1369
INFO by brainaid.de
Fox 9.50 Particulars
NAM_AWIP WX Updates:
0245 / 0845 / 1445 / 2045
Ranking:
SPRCH - SUPSOL - SPRQ3 - SYC
ALT. CLIENT:Classic
Race starts: Sep 26th 19:00 Registration Open!
HTML5 Client (beta) GO TO RACE

A3 2020 Leg 8 - Darwin to Perth
In 2012 Sailonline lost one of its more remarkable racers, Aaron Gage, the creator of the Flash client and all-round awesome human being. In his memory, Tyger created a superb series of races around the island of Australia - the A3 (Agage's Around Australia) Series. This race is Leg 8 of the series - a race of 1860nm in Orange 125ft Catamarans from the laid back north to the booming mining capital and yachting centre of Perth in the south of the state of Western Australia.
Race #1386
INFO from brainaid.de
Orange 125ft Catamaran Particulars
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: A3 - SYC
ALT CLIENT:Classic
Race starts: Sep 22nd 21:00 Registration Open!
HTML5 Client (beta) GO TO RACE

Foveaux Strait TIMED Race 2020
Welcome to southern New Zealand, and welcome to this TIMED race through the South Island’s Foveaux Strait. According to a Maori legend, the strait was created by Kewa the obedient whale when traditional Maori ancestor Kiwa summoned the whale to create a waterway. It is a rough and often treacherous stretch of water. Our 98nm quadrangular course goes around some small islands in the strait. To zoom around these islands in style, we will pull our Seacart 30s out of the shed and let them fly. Enjoy!
RE-REGISTER HERE to race again after finishing a run.
Race #1375
INFO by brainaid.de
Seacart30 Particulars
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
RANKING:
TRCH-SUPSOL-TRQ3-SYC
ALT. CLIENT: Classic
RACE CLOSE: Monday,
27 September at 2300utc
Race starts: Sep 14th 12:00 Registration Open!
HTML5 Client (beta) GO TO RACE

Carib Rum Run 2020

Welcome to the Caribbean and Sailonline's 2020 Pirate Name PRIZE race, running with Bart's Bash and ahead of International Talk Like a Pirate Day on 19 September. This is a 1759nm slalom through the rum islands of the Caribbean, for the first time in a Clipper, collecting barrels from the region's distilleries and carrying them to the rum-parched beaches of Cancun, Mexico. If ye scurvy swabs are up ter it, then ye be invited to attire yerselves in a piratical disguise by becoming an SYC Member and requesting to change your boat name for this race only!
Race #1384
INFO from brainaid.de
Clipper 240 Particulars
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SYC
ALT. CLIENT:Classic
Race starts: Sep 10th 17:00 Registration Closed
HTML5 Client (beta) GO TO RACE

Melbourne to Osaka 2020
Welcome to Melbourne for Sailonline's Melbourne to Osaka 2020 Double Handed Yacht Race - a 5000 nautical mile 2-handed yacht race and the only one running from the southern hemisphere to the northern hemisphere. This year we're racing the Riptide 50. It could be a long race!
PRIZE: SMPF
Race #1372
INFO by brainaid.de
Riptide 50 Particulars
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: OCCH - OCQ3 - SUPSOL - SYC
ALT. CLIENT:Classic
Race starts: Sep 01st 19:00 Registration Closed
HTML5 Client (beta) GO TO RACE

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