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Board » General Discussion » SOL Improvement - BBQ-ing

Can the thoughts below improve or just mess up our game.

When BBQ-ing it shall not be possible to gain performance while fetching a cold beer in the kithen. The performance have to be 80% when you get off the rocks.

Passing narrow straits on DC:s may content deliberate BBQ:s.
A time penalty (the boat is stucked on the beach to be repaired) will be added the second time the boat is beached. The time penalty will increase for every visit on land.

With no IRL sailing experience, I personally don't find it realistic that a boat can survive much more than one BBQ.

/ Klyvarn

--- Last Edited by Klyvarn at 2013-12-15 23:59:42 ---
I've been "beached" numerous times IRL, without damage. It takes some time to get off the beach (depending on your speed, "sliding" up the beach), and on the tide. But I haven't been sailing around actual rocks, which may damage your boat.. a lot.

It's probably too hard to make beaching realistic, compared to other improvements to SOL.

That said, I think (like you), that the 80% should not disappear in 20 seconds. As far as I can derive (I don't know how SOL's sailing engine internally works, but I can guess) the server can't make the difference between twa=0 after being beached, and twa=0 by command.

If you want SOL to be more realistic, the performance system might need an update, it's not at all realistic. One of the changes could be a slower recovery at twa=0. I would like to read about the designer-thoughts about the current perf. system, why is it like this?

PS: a boat can beach without damage, but you can't BBQ a boat more than once, after the first time, it can't be classified as a boat any more. Well.. you might, if you have your boat "rare" instead of "well done".
Many times irl I have had the keel stuck in the shifting sand bars of Moreton Bay, Brisbane. No damage. The famous Tjorn Runt is well known for rock hopping yachts and all seem to survive without too much damage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1s4qoYKCqM

There is also an arguement for an increase in efficiency after beaching. Old sailing ships and cruising yachts today beach on purpose for careening. This is to inspect the hull, make minor repairs and clean the hull of barnacles and fouling seaweed. After careening a boat would have a faster hull.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Careening

While waiting for the crew to finish the work, why not have an enjoyable BBQ. ;-)

--- Last Edited by Tyger / Robert Neilson at 2013-12-16 13:34:10 ---
“We may have arrived on different ships, but we are all in the same boat now!” Martin Luther King Jr.

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