Facebook

Login

Support Sailonline

If you haven't already - join the SAILONLINE YACHT CLUB!

Please also consider making a donation - all amounts are greatly appreciated!

Board » Sailonline Yacht Club » Preliminary ranking system

Page: Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next

Posted by
NOR_Jawik


Users avatar

Posts
70
Registered at
2008-08-31 20:55:18
2008-09-24 21:04:13 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
SYC Championship 2008

I have been study the ranking board and I have some comment to add.

As far as I can see - DNS and DNF get 181 points. I don't think this justify those members who complete the races.

Leg 1: DNS and DNF should have at least + 322 points (last boat) added.
Leg 2: DNS and DNF should have at least + 309 points (last boat) added.
And the list must be adjusted while the other bots/members are coming in.

e.g. If I landed on DNF in the first race I would ended up as #151.
Posted by
Wiz


Users avatar

Posts
7
Registered at
2007-11-20 08:31:22
2008-09-24 23:46:53 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
Thnx - that was an error!
Fixed.

/Wiz

--- Last Edited by Niklas Stenum at 2008-09-24 23:47:22 ---
Posted by
dirtrider


Users avatar

Posts
5
Registered at
2008-02-29 22:13:56
2008-09-25 10:36:12 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
Hi !
i habe a question concerning the bonus points. Are there all races counted or only the races of the last 6 month ? I wonder how some sailors have more than 2000 bonus points ?

Regards Stefan
GER 2539
Posted by
lamo


Users avatar

Posts
8
Registered at
2008-01-30 16:25:11
2008-10-06 09:58:56 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
dirtrider said @ 2008-09-25 10:36:12:
Hi !
i habe a question concerning the bonus points. Are there all races counted or only the races of the last 6 month ? I wonder how some sailors have more than 2000 bonus points ?

Regards Stefan
I agree with dirtrider that the calculation of participation points is very unclear at this moment. For instance, I now have 1813 points. How can this be if I should have 50 points per race? I think the calculation algorithm should be published.

Regards Lars
Lars Möller
Hometown: Karlskrona, Sweden
Posted by
Jeroen


Users avatar

Posts
245
Registered at
2007-08-15 09:17:47
2008-10-06 10:09:25 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
The differences in point come from the period before we set this 50 point participation points bonus. We have tried several systems and some older users have still got some participation points from this period.

The difference will even out once those races are beyond the 6 month line.
I am a ex-admin of SOL who joins in from time to time.
Posted by
Laser sailor at Pupuke


Users avatar

Posts
15
Registered at
2008-09-15 02:36:19
2008-12-02 20:26:14 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
Wiz said @ 2008-04-13 11:28:50:
Ranking systems in sailing has been up to discussion many times. It almost always falls back on the standard lowscoring system described in ISAF racing rules. Why not use it? Well tested and described (end of discussion?) and as I see it it will apply very well to SYC ranking system.
For example: Use latest 15 races to conform a serie. Winner gets 1 point, 2nd place 2 points aso. You don't count 1 of 5 races.
What I like with this system compared to current one:
- Sailing IRL is not about winning 5 races of 30. It's about not making big mistakes.
- A 5th place is worth the same for every race. It's not my fault the others didn't show up.
- You have to participate, but if you miss a race you can still win.
- Same system as IRL
___________________________________________

I emphatically agree!!! Sail-Online is about simulating real life sailing. Adopting an already established international scoring system not only provides a tested system, it elevates Sail-Online to be closer to real sailing.

--- Last Edited by Bruce Hudson at 2008-12-02 20:27:01 ---

--- Last Edited by Bruce Hudson at 2008-12-02 20:27:37 ---
Posted by
Eddie C. Dost


Users avatar

Posts
57
Registered at
2008-08-23 11:40:29
2008-12-03 16:48:22 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
I agree fully with Niklas and Bruce.

The ISAF system is fair and honours a steady performance while not overrating single good results or single bad results.

Independantly of this the sailonline ranking is wrong at some point. The last edition of the ranking in the wiki is dated March 31 this year, which is more than 6 month ago. So there should be no races with bonuspoints different to 50 in the ranking anymore. Bonuspoints greater than 2000 are strange anyhow, there have been 24 races in the last 6 month so the maximum bonus is 1200 points... I hope I counted correctly, this might be one or two races off, but there is no explaination for more than 2000 bonus points in the ranking.

Please check the calculation of the ranking, it is really hard to understand for new members, as a chance to get much higher than rank 100 is not visible.
_/)_/)_/)
The sea is lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to sail before I sleep, And miles to sail before I sleep.
Posted by
jakob


Users avatar

Posts
364
Registered at
2007-09-04 10:05:30
2008-12-03 18:47:25 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
Hi! We listen to our community. You know that. Our ranking is a bit embarrasing at the moment and we will redo it. Most likely we will do the ISAF-ranking. Have patience please. :-) Thing is that we NEED to do some other development first. E.g. we have a date-line-crossing to take care of...
...one of the guys behind the game...
Posted by
Eddie C. Dost


Users avatar

Posts
57
Registered at
2008-08-23 11:40:29
2008-12-03 18:59:30 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
Fine, Jakob. As long as we know you will look into this at some time it's good.

Datelines can be tricky, I know that ;) My thoughts are with you and Kalle.
_/)_/)_/)
The sea is lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to sail before I sleep, And miles to sail before I sleep.
Posted by
ybw_trev


Users avatar

Posts
13
Registered at
2008-01-21 13:37:57
2008-12-08 14:36:59 - Re: Preliminary ranking system
Poor chap just joined SYC.

Total rank #338 with -393 points, of which -798 are bonus points for participation.

Don't know what he did to upset you. ;-)

PS
I think your doing a really really good job.

Trev.

Page: Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next

Please login to post a reply.

Races

Next Race: 00d 00h 00m

Current Races:

Fernando de Noronha to Faroe 2025

The RWW Series concludes with a spectacular journey from Fernando de Noronha to the Faroe Islands, a legendary destination in the wild North Atlantic. Panning 4,100 nautical miles, this leg will be a true test of endurance, strategy, and sheer determination. Also the penultimate leg of the 2025 Ocean Championship, it’s your chance to prove your mettle against the sea, the wind, and yourself. We’ll be racing aboard the Ragamuffin 100, a vessel built for speed and challenge — demanding planning, precision and grit from every sailor on deck. Do you have what it takes to master the Northern Atlantic?.
PRIZE: SMPF
Race #1960
INFO by brainaid.de
Ragamuffin 100 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: RWW - OCQ4 - OCCH - SUPSOL - SYC
Race starts: Nov 03rd 11:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Mistli's Birthday BBQ Race 2025


Welcome to one of Sailonline's great traditions - the ofttimes slightly untimely celebration of SOLer Mistli's birthday on November 1, by way of a tricky race through the Stockholm Archipelago. To match the day that’s in it, this year correctly, we are providing you with a fleet of sleek 11 metre 1-designs (get it?) to slice through these (at least) 61.5nm of SLI-infested waters, and give you a fair chance that there will still be some beer left by the time you moor up by the jetty at Trosa!
Race #1947
INFO by brainaid.de
11m OD PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SYC
RACE CLOSE: Wednesday,
November 5 at 2300 UTC.
Race starts: Nov 01st 14:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

ORCV Melbourne to Devonport Race 2025

Welcome to the legendary Rudder Cup, Australia’s oldest and most storied yacht race—sailed for over 110 years across the challenging Bass Strait from Melbourne to Tasmania. Organized by the Ocean Racing Club of Victoria, this 195nm classic tests sailors’ skill, strategy, and endurance against the unpredictable Southern Ocean. This year, our SOLers will be racing the timeless Swan 36, Nautor’s very first production yacht—a Sparkman & Stephens masterpiece renowned for her elegance, balance, and seaworthy performance. Get ready for a true ocean racing adventure!
Race #1951
INFO by brainaid.de
Swan 36 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SYC
RACE CLOSE: Saturday,
November 8 at 2300 UTC.
Race starts: Oct 31st 03:30 Registration Closed
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Sinbad by Balloon 2025 - Carnarvon to Dondra


From here, our home in Bharatavarṣa is now north west of us – said Sinbad to his fellow balloonists. Perhaps we can ride the wind first further north, and then catch the winds that every year bring the rain, perhaps not. It’s 2600nm and we could be aloft awhile, so, Master el-Quarters, victuals only, no sandbags, provisioning the giant hamper. It will be not a picnic!
Race #1886
INFOby brainaid.de
SOL Balloon PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SYC - SBB
Race starts: Oct 15th 11:00 Registration Closed
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Go to race archive

SYC Ranking

  1. Sailonline Yacht Club Member KaSToR
  2. Sailonline Yacht Club Member CriticalHippo
  3. Sailonline Yacht Club Member WRmirekd
  4. Sailonline Yacht Club Member vida
  5. Sailonline Yacht Club Member rafa
  6. Sailonline Yacht Club Member CollegeFund
  7. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Panpyc
  8. Sailonline Yacht Club Member FreyjaUSA
  9. Sailonline Yacht Club Member BRENTGRAY
  10. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Sax747

View full list

Series

Mobile Client

SYC members have the benefit of access to our mobile/lightweight web client!

The mobile client