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LaoziSailor (Han Tacoma-Emons)


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2012-10-01 18:21:59 - Suggestions, where to post?
I was not able to find a "search" capability for the forums, thus my question below.

Do we have a dedicated "Subject" for suggestions?

How hard would it be to allow a "drag and drop" of your boat during pre-start after registration has been opened?

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2012-10-01 20:28:21 - Re: Suggestions, where to post?
With all due respect, my friend, I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this idea, the programming complexities aside for the moment, if the boats do not behave normally, as they would during the race, there is no standard to compare the relative performance of any two competitors during the pre-race phase thus rendering any semblance of match racing moot.

Quite often there is enough time to either run the course or find weather conditions to fully exercise the boat's polar diagram prior to the race that will familiarize yourself with the necessities to come.
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2012-10-01 20:33:59 - Re: Suggestions, where to post?
You can use the site operator in both Google and Bing to search the Sailonline forum for any information you need. For instance, to search the forum for posts about VMG, you would enter

VMG site:www.sailonline.org/board

HTH, HAND,
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2012-10-01 21:02:25 - Re: Suggestions, where to post?
A2R said @ 2012-10-01 20:28:21:
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Quite often there is enough time to either run the course or find weather conditions to fully exercise the boat's polar diagram prior to the race that will familiarize yourself with the necessities to come.
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I agree and that was precisely what I was doing, sailing the waters, finding the SLIs and then it came time for the PR and there was no way I could make it back in time.

Also chatting with Saddler, he suggested working with the SLIs and other surrounding islands to practice DCs and having a "darg and drop" would come in handy for that as well.

Hope this makes my intentions a bit clearer.

Cheers!


--- Last Edited by Han Tacoma-Emons at 2012-10-01 21:09:30 ---
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2012-10-01 21:05:12 - Re: Suggestions, where to post?
Schakel, Thank you for showing me that function. I was not aware of it.
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--- Last Edited by Han Tacoma-Emons at 2012-10-01 21:07:54 ---
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2012-10-01 21:13:26 - Re: Suggestions, where to post?
Thank you for expanding your remarks.

I agree that you have to choose your objectives during the pre-race phase & may not be able to participate in all the various options.

However don't you see how the ability to move a boat willy nilly, absent the normal constraints, would be problematic to assessing any comparisons based on performance alone.
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2012-10-01 22:04:00 - Re: Suggestions, where to post?
A2R, I do see your points. I am fairly new to SOL and it is a very different experience to other virtual simulators [and this is not the place to name them] where I get tactics, AI, RRS and other experience with a very poor graphic rendering and I don't need that for what I get. Others do provide a granularity that actually lets me see the luff in my sails, yet another aspect.

Here I am faced with other learning opportunities -- I'm reading 76T's treatises on VMG/VMC in SOL, irl I leave that up to the wind in my face or the back of my head and can actually see if I'm choking the main or not. Here all those performance indicators have to be calculated and we do have a very rich heritage left behind by Aaron that I am also dealing with.

Maybe the ability to "willy-nilly" jump your ship to other locations would present the problems you pose, OTOH for beginners, those may not be as important. Furthermore, you are absolutely correct when you say there are programming issues to consider as well and we have to be very dilligent on where we spend the few talent and $$ resources.

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2012-10-02 00:42:02 - Re: Suggestions, where to post?
Laozi... (an inaccurate moniker BTW as I think you are quite skilled!)

I had many of the same queries when I first joined until I was educated on the origin of SOL.

As I understand it, SOL was originally designed to test polars and VPPs of students @ Sailport. It is also geared toward long-distance/ocean racing such that meteo knowledge and integrating this with the polar characteristics is key. The program assumes you are absolutely perfect at every angle of sail and wind velocity (why wouldn't it, aren't we that way IRL!!) A WHOLE other discussion vis-a-vis routers is included elsewhere in Forum. Some terrific links and info can also be found on AGage's blog at http://soltools.wordpress.com
Though some do not apply to the current GIU, most of it is still gold.

Hope this helps and keep SOLing!!!

SP
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2012-10-02 04:36:35 - Re: Suggestions, where to post?
Sham,
Laozi is not a word play on lousy. It is a reference to Laozi, the founder of Taoism and author of Tao Te Ching. For the cliff notes version see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laozi
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2012-10-04 15:49:48 - Re: Suggestions, where to post?
Jack, thanks for making that clear, you are of course correct. I have found it interesting, how through Wu-wei or other transliterations, how in fact it has led to all those, like lousy, lazy, etc.
...in the end I retain my autonomous self (not very clearly hidden), I do really want and actually do help those that cannot fend for themselves.
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