Facebook

Login

Support Sailonline

If you haven't already - join the SAILONLINE YACHT CLUB!

Please also consider making a donation - all amounts are greatly appreciated!

Board » General Discussion » Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009

Page: Previous 1 2 3 4 Next

Posted by
latenitec1


Users avatar

Posts
6
Registered at
2009-02-23 05:14:56
2009-08-11 00:02:33 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
RainbowChaser:
I agree with you 100%.
I understand RORC's need to protect names, etc. But when I found out they were taking money from VR.

Your letter pointed out many of the things I don't like about VR and pointed a few things that I hadn't been able to quite verbalize yet.

I Hope you don't mind, I posted a copy of this letter on Sailing Anarchy

I know a few anarchists are using SOL also

--- Last Edited by Bob Kasischke at 2009-08-11 00:08:14 ---

--- Last Edited by RainbowChaser at 2012-01-14 12:12:03 ---
Posted by
Eddie C. Dost


Users avatar

Posts
57
Registered at
2008-08-23 11:40:29
2009-08-11 03:09:54 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
Thank you, RainbowChaser. You put into words what I was feeling when I saw the course change and put my boat on TWA=0.

Thank you, hats off to you.
_/)_/)_/)
The sea is lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to sail before I sleep, And miles to sail before I sleep.
Posted by
Zembu


Users avatar

Posts
41
Registered at
2008-12-15 20:58:27
2009-08-11 19:27:56 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
Well done Rainbowchaser. I also sent an email to RORC via their website - but nothing much compared to yours - as follows;

This is an enquiry e-mail via http://www.rorc.org/ from:
Andrew Cormie <andrew@zembu.plus.com>

I'd like to know what are your grounds for objection against Sail Online (SOL), resulting in your action in sending them a solicitor's letter. Your action has caused trouble for several hundred people engaged in an innocent activity which was not causing you any problem.

HAVE OF COURSE HAD NO REPLY.
Posted by
Exmeromotu


Users avatar

Posts
71
Registered at
2008-12-10 15:22:17
2009-08-11 23:06:33 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
Everybody,

Those of us that did VORG and other races with VR remember to ask for your account to be deleted. Even if we are not playing they use the account for their PR purposes. Go to the Support part of the forum and ask for removal. You should get back something like this:


[#ARG-292402]: SUPPORT VG VIRTUEL - SOL - Insc‏
From: Support VIRTUAL REGATTA (support@virtualregatta.com)
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:21:34 AM
To: exmeromotu_@hotmail.com
Hello,

You have been removed from our database.

Best regards,

--
Support Virtual Regatta.
support@virtualregatta.com

Détails du billet
===================
Code d'identification du billet: ARG-292402
Département: VR - La solitaire 2009
Priorité: Normal
Statut: Closed


That was the fastest and only reply I got from them.!!
The account got deleted almost 48 hours after I asked them to do so!!

BTW great job RC I guess nobody could've said it better!

Regards,

Antonio Marí
Posted by
windward2


Users avatar

Posts
1
Registered at
2009-08-06 18:44:33
2009-08-12 21:30:01 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
Well put RC, bull's eye!

I am also amazed that RORC has chosen VR to team up with just for the money. VR is a joke compared to SoL. However, my advise to the developers (being over 60yrs of age) will be to concentrate on the commercial and legal aspects a.w.a. the technical aspects in which they are doing a great job. I make the comparison between Apple and Microsoft (I hope no one gets offended), although Apple had the technical edge and had (and still has) better technology, MS was much more successful commercially & legally (!).
Unfortunately, the world is not what it used to be and sentiments (honour, fair-play, etc.) of RC's email are replaced by greed, flexing muscles (legally not literally) etc.
I do not want to discourage the developers but to warn them against bullies who may want to run down the good work they have done.
I hope that RC's message gets through to RORC and the matter goes away without hurting SoL...
Posted by
RainbowChaser


Users avatar

Posts
2656
Registered at
2009-06-14 09:44:50
2009-08-12 22:01:58 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
Just an update for everyone before I turn in. No feedback, no reply, niente, nada, absolutely zilch from RORC.

On the basis that everyone may be focused on the race itself down at Race HQ in Cowes, I have printed off a copy of my email and sent it with a compliments slip by post to Commodore McIrvine at RORC HQ in London.
Posted by
RainbowChaser


Users avatar

Posts
2656
Registered at
2009-06-14 09:44:50
2009-08-21 15:46:10 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
Just to keep this current. As at now, 1644hrs BST on Friday, 21 August 2009, I have received no response from RORC. Because the original email was submitted via the online form I have the incoming acknowledgement from that, so I know my email was received in the organisation.

Has anyone who communicated with RORC heard anything back?
Posted by
Eddie C. Dost


Users avatar

Posts
57
Registered at
2008-08-23 11:40:29
2009-08-21 16:11:44 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
Same here, no reply to my e-mail.
_/)_/)_/)
The sea is lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to sail before I sleep, And miles to sail before I sleep.
Posted by
Gull


Users avatar

Posts
2
Registered at
2009-06-21 11:37:19
2009-08-21 18:41:03 - Re: Email to Commodore McIrvine RORC re action against SOL, 9 August 2009
Eddie C. Dost said @ 2009-08-21 16:11:44:
Same here, no reply to my e-mail.
Même chose : pas de réponse. La même que Exmermotu : vous êtes supprimés de Virtual Regatta. ........... et je m'en fou : lol !
Posted by
RainbowChaser


Users avatar

Posts
2656
Registered at
2009-06-14 09:44:50
2009-08-24 08:53:46 - Reply from Commodore McIrvine RORC
OK all.. prepare to be surprised!! I have now received an email from Commodore McIrvine, from his private email address, as follows:

QUOTE
Dear XXXXX

Thank you for your email dated 10 August which arrived while I was at sea, participating in the Rolex Fastnet Race.

RORC has nothing against Sailonline.com or the virtual races which it organises; however, RORC has every right to protect on its behalf and on behalf of its sponsors the name and concept of the Rolex Fastnet Race. Sailonline.com sought to exploit that name and concept without even approaching RORC to seek consent. It is only right that Sailonline.com should not mimic the Rolex Fastnet Race without RORC's consent. Requiring Sailonline.com to desist from that does not and will not prevent you and other virtual offshore racers enjoying the challenge of racing with Sailonline.com but you must do so on your own races and not those in which others have proprietary interests, unless they agree that you may.

Yours sincerely




Andrew J McIrvine


Commodore
Royal Ocean Racing Club
20 St James's Place
London
SW1AA iNN
UNQUOTE

Page: Previous 1 2 3 4 Next

Please login to post a reply.

Races

Next Race: 00d 00h 00m

Current Races:

Red Eye - Frisian Isles Trophy 2025

For our final “Red Eye” race, we invite you to cross the Noord Zee to the Wadden Zee, where a 160nm course around a few sandy islands raced on SOL only once before in 2010 awaits you. We don’t have a replica of Erskine Childers’ Dulcibella in our boathouse, and in any case if we took her out, we might well contract more than one “Red Eye”, so instead we’ll race our very own riddle of the sands in Farr 400s!
Race #1848
INFOby brainaid.de
Farr 400 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SYC - RED

Race starts: Nov 05th 12:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Fernando de Noronha to Faroe 2025

The RWW Series concludes with a spectacular journey from Fernando de Noronha to the Faroe Islands, a legendary destination in the wild North Atlantic. Panning 4,100 nautical miles, this leg will be a true test of endurance, strategy, and sheer determination. Also the penultimate leg of the 2025 Ocean Championship, it’s your chance to prove your mettle against the sea, the wind, and yourself. We’ll be racing aboard the Ragamuffin 100, a vessel built for speed and challenge — demanding planning, precision and grit from every sailor on deck. Do you have what it takes to master the Northern Atlantic?.
PRIZE: SMPF
Race #1960
INFO by brainaid.de
Ragamuffin 100 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: RWW - OCQ4 - OCCH - SUPSOL - SYC
Race starts: Nov 03rd 11:00 Registration Open!
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Mistli's Birthday BBQ Race 2025


Welcome to one of Sailonline's great traditions - the ofttimes slightly untimely celebration of SOLer Mistli's birthday on November 1, by way of a tricky race through the Stockholm Archipelago. To match the day that’s in it, this year correctly, we are providing you with a fleet of sleek 11 metre 1-designs (get it?) to slice through these (at least) 61.5nm of SLI-infested waters, and give you a fair chance that there will still be some beer left by the time you moor up by the jetty at Trosa!
Race #1947
INFO by brainaid.de
11m OD PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SYC
RACE CLOSE: Wednesday,
November 5 at 2300 UTC.
Race starts: Nov 01st 14:00 Registration Closed
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

ORCV Melbourne to Devonport Race 2025

Welcome to the legendary Rudder Cup, Australia’s oldest and most storied yacht race—sailed for over 110 years across the challenging Bass Strait from Melbourne to Tasmania. Organized by the Ocean Racing Club of Victoria, this 195nm classic tests sailors’ skill, strategy, and endurance against the unpredictable Southern Ocean. This year, our SOLers will be racing the timeless Swan 36, Nautor’s very first production yacht—a Sparkman & Stephens masterpiece renowned for her elegance, balance, and seaworthy performance. Get ready for a true ocean racing adventure!
Race #1951
INFO by brainaid.de
Swan 36 PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SYC
RACE CLOSE: Saturday,
November 8 at 2300 UTC.
Race starts: Oct 31st 03:30 Registration Closed
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Sinbad by Balloon 2025 - Carnarvon to Dondra


From here, our home in Bharatavarṣa is now north west of us – said Sinbad to his fellow balloonists. Perhaps we can ride the wind first further north, and then catch the winds that every year bring the rain, perhaps not. It’s 2600nm and we could be aloft awhile, so, Master el-Quarters, victuals only, no sandbags, provisioning the giant hamper. It will be not a picnic!
Race #1886
INFOby brainaid.de
SOL Balloon PARTICULARS
WX Updates:
0430 / 1030 / 1630 / 2230
Ranking: SYC - SBB
Race starts: Oct 15th 11:00 Registration Closed
▶ Flash
GO TO RACE

Go to race archive

SYC Ranking

  1. Sailonline Yacht Club Member KaSToR
  2. Sailonline Yacht Club Member CriticalHippo
  3. Sailonline Yacht Club Member WRmirekd
  4. Sailonline Yacht Club Member vida
  5. Sailonline Yacht Club Member rafa
  6. Sailonline Yacht Club Member CollegeFund
  7. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Panpyc
  8. Sailonline Yacht Club Member FreyjaUSA
  9. Sailonline Yacht Club Member BRENTGRAY
  10. Sailonline Yacht Club Member Sax747

View full list

Series

Mobile Client

SYC members have the benefit of access to our mobile/lightweight web client!

The mobile client