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2010-01-02 17:59:04 - Protest against vessel Sabre77 ;))))))
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I draw the attention of the SOL Committee on a suspected bug related to the overall time of the mentioned vessel achieved today in the Boston - Newport timed race as per leaderboard .The protest is presented with a smile of sympaty , but is seriosly supported by the following

FACTS

1)Sabre77 alledgedly completed the course in 4 hours 41 minutes and 16 seconds after leaving Boston at 08.35Z . The tws and angles on the course at that time span were not justifying such result , given an average speed ( without accounting for extra run ) of 28,01 Knots !!! .

2)The boats that completed the course ending from 2nd to 10th position had tws between 19.... and 23 knots , with almost perfect reach angles all the way , and logged an average speed of 23,6 knots , completing the course in approx 5,5 hours.

3)Well renowned boats departed in the same time window as Sabre77 and did the following results :

JuJu.....dep 0749...took 6H11M47S
Jepsom...dep 0751...took 5H50M19S
K1W1.....dep 0826...took 5H45M56S
Odysseus.dep 0858...took 5H47M32S
Urania...dep 0907...took 5H49M33S

Due to above evidence I claim that Sabre77 time is INCORRECT .

Could the Committe look into this matter and , should this evidence be confirmed, amend the leaderboard accordingly ?

Thanks

WINSTON_4

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2010-01-02 18:04:59 - Re: Protest against vessel Sabre77 ;))))))
Where can we find the elapsed times of the race?
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2010-01-02 18:21:09 - Re: Protest against vessel Sabre77 ;))))))
Look at
http://www.sailonline.org/races/195/leaderboard/
for detailed report

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2010-01-02 18:54:36 - Re: Protest against vessel Sabre77 ;))))))
Thanks a lot!
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2010-01-02 19:38:56 - Re: Protest against vessel Sabre77 ;))))))
Check the course sailed by "2by4" also. I think he chose the turbocharged hydrofoil for his run. Where do I click to run one of those!
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2010-01-02 19:54:25 - Re: Protest against vessel Sabre77 ;))))))
My estimate for Sabre77 uses the distance traveled as 194 nm (plotting his track) and elapsed time of 4.75 hours.

Average speed 41 kts!?!

While not as impressive as a first place ranking, "2by4" sailed a VO70 over 220 nm in just over 6 hours, including a long upwind, in a hair over 6 hours, at an average speed of ... over 36 kts.
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2010-01-02 20:11:18 - Re: Protest against vessel Sabre77 ;))))))
I would point out that I was grounded for part of my run - maybe 10-15 minutes

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2010-01-02 21:23:08 - Re: Protest against vessel Sabre77 ;))))))
I think there is a bug in the system... ;)

I started at 20:00 UTC and try to change course at 23:00 UTC but was unable to login to the website. So I went to sleep...

My boat went to the end of the map and the next morning at 09:00 UTC or something like that I changed course to the finish line.

I think the time of the leaderboard is from the end of the map till the finish.

Cheers,

Sabre77
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2010-01-02 21:23:53 - Re: Protest against vessel Sabre77 ;))))))
I think there is a bug in the system... ;)

I started at 20:00 UTC and try to change course at 23:00 UTC but was unable to login to the website. So I went to sleep...

My boat went to the end of the map and the next morning at 09:00 UTC or something like that I changed course to the finish line.

I think the time of the leaderboard is from the end of the map till the finish.

Cheers,

Sabre77
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2010-01-02 21:47:21 - Re: Protest against vessel Sabre77 ;))))))
Your analysis is correct and we are working on a fix to the problem. Thanks for helping!! :-)
...one of the guys behind the game...

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